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# July 27, 2016
* Intro by Matt
* [Gerred Dillon](https://twitter.com/justicefries) presented a demo of [Deis](https://deis.com/) including features in the 2.2 release.
* To turn an application into a container it uses Heroku buildpacks.
* [slugbuilder](https://github.com/deis/slugbuilder) converts an application and buildpack into a container and puts the image into a private registry. Pod manifest, service manifest, etc are also created.
* Q: Is slugbuilder a separate microservice others can use?
A: Yes. It's a plugin to [builder](https://github.com/deis/builder) that can be used with other builders as well. For example, there is some way to incorporate an object store for storage of images.
* Q: How does Deis use namespaces?
A: There is a separate one for each application. Then other tools can deploy supporting services to the same namespace.
* Q: What languages are used in Deis?
A: Rails, Phoenix, Django, some PHP, and node are examples of apps today. There are currently not many Go applications.
* Q: Will Deis add back-end services?
A: Can't really say. They are getting plenty of requests for them. This may be a place helm will step in and be useful.
* Deis 2.2 adds the ability to use Deployments which was showcased. This is optional and not the default right now.
* Matt presented the results of the App Operator survey.
* The raw details are available to [view or download](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SUL7QTpR4Flrp5eJ5TR8A5ZAFwbchfX2QL4MEoJFQ8/edit?usp=sharing).
* A roll-up of some interesting points is [available](
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13votPnx9xKVBoQbLHz78I9EWFCosoioFqjTFeb4vB6M/edit?usp=sharing
).
* The use of Kubernetes secrets was discussed. 47% of respondents use secrets. Secrets current storage mechanism is unencrypted at rest. This is a known limitation and we are waiting for some in the community to step in and provide support for systems like Hashicorp Vault or hardware security modules where appropriate.
_Note, due to technical difficulties this meeting was not recorded._
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