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diff --git a/communication/mailing-list-guidelines.md b/communication/mailing-list-guidelines.md
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--- a/communication/mailing-list-guidelines.md
+++ b/communication/mailing-list-guidelines.md
@@ -46,15 +46,6 @@ Moderation of the SIG/WG lists is up to that individual SIG/WG. The admins
are there to help facilitate leadership changes, or various other administrative
functions.
-The group management settings for Google Groups have been changed in order
-to make groups simpler to manage. This has caused some breaks in certain groups
-visibility settings related to SIG and WG Google Groups.
-The instructions on how to fix from Google Groups for owners of the list:
-Near the top right, click **Manage group**.
-- **Information** -> **Directory** -> **Edit the setting to set the desired
-visibility for your group.** -> **Save**.
-- This [link] have all the details related to these changes.
-
Users who are violating the [Code of Conduct] or other negative activities
(like spamming) should be moderated.
- [Lock the thread immediately] so that people cannot reply to the thread.
@@ -98,21 +89,23 @@ Create a Google Group at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!creategroup,
following the below procedure:
- Each SIG must have two discussion groups with the following settings.
- `kubernetes-sig-<foo>` (the discussion group):
- - Anyone can view content.
- - Anyone can join.
- - Moderate messages from non-members of the group.
- - Only members can view the list of members.
+ - Group type: Email list
+ - Group visibility: Anyone on the web
+ - View topics: Anyone on the web
+ - Post: Owners of the group, Managers of the group, All members of the group. Ensure that "Anyone on the web" is NOT selected here.
+ - Join the group: Anyone can ask
- `kubernetes-sig-<foo>-leads` (list for the leads, to be used with Zoom and
Calendars)
- - Only members can view group content.
- - Anyone can apply to join.
- - Moderate messages from non-members of the group.
- - Only members can view the list of members.
+ - Group type: Email list
+ - Group visibility: All members of the group
+ - View topics: All members of the group
+ - Post: Owners of the group, Managers of the group, All members of the group. Ensure that "Anyone on the web" is NOT selected here.
+ - Join the group: Only invited users
+
- Groups should be created as e-mail lists with at least three owners and must
include the [Mailing list owners](#mailing-list-owners).
- To add the owners, visit the **Group Settings** (drop-down menu on the right
- side), select **Direct Add Members** on the left side and add them via their
- email address (with a suitable welcome message).
+ side), select **Members**, then **Direct Add Members** on the left side and add them via their email address (with a suitable welcome message). Do NOT forget to invite contributors@kubernetes.io in addition to your leads.
- In **Members/All Members** select the [Mailing list owners] and assign them
to the **owner role**.
- Set the following permissions to **Public**:
@@ -132,6 +125,12 @@ Familiarize yourself with the [moderation guidelines] for the project and create
a [moderation queue]. Chairs should be cognizant that a new group will require
an initial time investment moderation-wise as the group establishes itself.
+### Visibility
+
+If you need to ensure that an existing group is visible to the internet.
+
+Near the top right, click **Manage group**.
+- **Information** -> **Group Visibility** -> **Edit the setting to set the desired visibility for your group.** -> **Save**.
### Create moderation queue
@@ -140,31 +139,13 @@ queue before being posted to the Mailing List.
- From the Google Groups management page goto **Settings** -> **Moderation**.
- Configure the following settings:
- - **Post:**
- - Owners of the Group
- - Manager of the Group
- - All Members of the Group
- - **Post as the Group:**
- - Owners of the Group
- - Managers of the Group
- - **Approve Members:**
- - Managers of the Group
- - **Lock Topics:**
- - Owners of the Group
- - Managers of the Group
- - **Modify Members:** (should be Greyed out)
- - Owners of the Group
- - Managers of the Group
- - **New Member Restrictions:**
- - New member posts are moderated
- - **Reject author notification:**
- - Notify authors when moderators reject their posts -> **checked**
- - Message:
+ - Leave "Moderate all messages to the group" off
+ - New member restrictions: New member posts are moderated
+ - Rejected author notification: Checked, use this text:
```
Since you're a new subscriber you're in a moderation queue, sorry for the inconvenience, a moderator will check your message shortly.
```
- - **Spam messages:**
- - Send them to moderation queue and send notification to moderators.
+ - Spam messages: Send them to moderation queue and send notification to moderators.
### Archive a mailing list
@@ -193,8 +174,6 @@ To archive a mailing list, use the below procedure.
- **Join the group:**
- Only invited users
-
-
[mailing list owners]: #mailing-list-owners
[moderation queue]: #create-moderation-queue
[sig-list]: /sig-list.md
@@ -205,5 +184,4 @@ To archive a mailing list, use the below procedure.
[lock the thread immediately]: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/2466386?hl=en#
[delete the post]: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/1046523?hl=en
[these instructions]: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/2646833?hl=en&ref_topic=2458761#
-[groups help]: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/2466386?hl=en&ref_topic=2458761
-[link]: https://support.google.com/a/answer/9191148?hl=en
+[groups help]: https://support.google.com/groups/answer/2466386?hl=en&ref_topic=2458761 \ No newline at end of file